Please just ignore this if you are over the conversation as I'm sure many of you are.
But I'm finding a theme among the people who have been on team "Fire Ryan Day" all year long (most of them seem to come from the same hive mind).
My problem is not that they think Day (or Frye, LJ, Pantoni, etc) should be fired. I think many if not most people on this site would probably agree it is time for a change so long as a suitable replacement can be found.
Anyway, the theme I find is just a total lack of nuance in the debate. There is no acknowledgement of the things Day has done well, or of the role bad luck has played in the failures of his teams. There is no acknowledgement that being close to the highest level of success is actually really hard, and the line between a win and a loss in the biggest games is often very very thin. Kirby Smart probably doesn't have the reputation he does without injuries to Jameson Williams and Marvin Harrison; that's pretty lucky! If you acknowledge these things you are a "sunshine pumper", as if the only reality that exists is awful.
You can acknowledge all of this and still think it is time for a change! You can acknowledge that not every recruiting/portal/development failure on the O-line is down to Justin Frye being incompetent. You can acknowledge that you really have no evidence one way or another that "Mickey Marroti sucks". You can even acknowledge that it's not ok to post a coach's home address online just because he hasn't won enough!
So my question is, what is the point of being such hard-liners? You antagonize everyone else in the fan base. Even when you are right, people dislike you because of your approach. What is so bad about having a nuanced discussion instead of defaulting to "Ryan Day is 4-13 on his goals" as if that ever convinced anyone?
I'm not trying to attack anyone, so I'd appreciate if the thread doesn't devolve into name-calling