Bernell Trammell

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  1. Cantonbuckeye16

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    Isn't forgotten.
     
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    Amen brother! It's crazy how people choose which person's or people should be honored. SMH
     
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    He’ll be forgotten in a week just like the rest of them.


    Pretending political violence into existence out of insecurity for your own shitty arguments that systematic violence and brutality against minorities isn’t real.

    Desperate.
     
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    Still not forgotten.

    Just another hate crime against a Trump supporter I guess...
     
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    Police unable to solve the crime and refusing to speak on potential suspects or motive.

    Same as the thousands of other lives that White conservatives aren’t using because it doesn’t fit their political narrative.

    Yet miraculously the right blames liberals instead of the police who can’t get their act together. Because the right cares SO MUCH about this man’s death that they’re beside themselves...

    Not about his case, but...you know...the hypocrisy of the lack of outrage on CNN.
     
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    Don't you have a heart or soul?
     
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    Don’t you care about finding out who killed this guy instead of just crying about liberals not having the right amount of “outrage” to please you?

    The downside of using dead Black men you don’t give a shit about for your political gain is that there are thousands of others in who were murdered by police that you’ve cheered.

    So it comes off as rather disingenuous when you can’t seem to hold police to higher standards than that if criminals.
     
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    The simple message here is: This dead black man doesn't fit the MSM narrative, AND SPDEMS AHs like to spin it away per usual.
     
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    Yea, we know you'll ignore massive obvious issues and instead make hyperbolic claims that simply aren't true.
     
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    “massive obvious issues” like what?

    The issue is the state killing too many people of color and you being unable to do anything but deflect to other criminals as a means for changing the subject.

    It’s logically fallacious. But I'm down to stop non-governmental crime as well.
     
    10 _AZ_, Aug 3, 2020 at 7:21 AM
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    :rolleyes:

    You just can't be serious can't you?

    3000> 30
     
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    I haven't seen this meme, so I don't know what this out of context numbers refer to.

    But the generational, disproportionate brutality against communities of color is well documented and generally accepted by Americans without political motive.

    There are thousands upon thousands of Black men and women who have been brutalized or, worse, killed by police.


    And you have such little interest in government killing Americans that you've turned it into a culture war.

    Gross. No respect for the people of our country.
     
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    It's the number of black on black murders vs the number of deaths due police use of force for last year.

    It's obvious which one is a priority issue and which one is being sensationalized.
     
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    Once again, unable to rationalize why crime by your government is different than "black on black crime" should be treated differently.

    Refuse to hold Police to a higher standard of criminals, and it explains how this country failed in law enforcement.
     
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    Everyone in this country should be treated equally, not one group being held to a higher standard than another.
     
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    Police disagree. So, it seems, do you.
     
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    Police don't disagree. That's stats on their use of force reinforces that.
     
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    Regardless of race, if you commit a crime you pay the time. ALL people need to respect authority. Someone jumping on two cops, punching them in the face, and then stealing their teaser will get you shot. Don't care what color you're. Just common sense.

    Now again, if people have more respect for the police things would change as well. But when you see little kids holding a sign **** the Police. Guess what, that's from the parents. And it's bad, and it's not a good look. The kids follow the parents lead, and this is why some continue to think cops are bad. So this will continue to linger until everyone realizes MOST cops are good. Sure the bad ones are a few, and hopefully they get caught. And they should get caught, cuz like in any other profession a piece of shit is a piece of shit. And they should be held accountable for their actions. PERIOD!!! Not too hard to figure really.
     
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    Nice slogan. Not reality, though.

    I don't care about these stupid quips as a cop out for being unable to cope with the MASSIVE problem of police brutality and murder of innocent Americans by your government.

    Don't care about you excusing this problem as "a few bad apples" while generalizing every protester as a criminal.


    Its disingenuous, and its just a shitty argument overall.
     
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    None of that suggests what you think it does.

    Using force on black people often reflects the amount of violent crime committed by that subgroup.
     
    21 Cantonbuckeye16, Aug 3, 2020 at 11:43 AM
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    This is completely incoherent and makes no points, and you're supporting it with no alternative evidence.

    Lightweight. Get a real argument, boy.
     
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    Facts are facts.

    It's about culture and the type of violence
    certian subgroups perpetrate.
     
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    If you ever want to provide, cite and discuss facts, I'll be here waiting.

    Culture and certain "subgroups" aren't pre-disposed to violence or criminality. And you won't provide any documented evidence to the contrary...
     
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    Certain populations are pre-disposed to poverty and thus crime. You've argued so yourself.
     
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    It's fact bro.
     
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    Yes, they are.

    That isn't a "culture" problem, thats a systematic problem.

    Being Black doesn't pre-dispose someone to poverty, neither does listening to rap music. Those are feeling-based opinions.

    No it isn't.

    This is a position that doesn't align with reality in the United States of America.


    You whine about kids holding signs, not the reality that those kids have seen systematic racism and police brutality plaguing their communities for years.

    And without listening to them, you demonize their parents and cry like a bitch.

    Judging people like the toxic piece of shit you are.

    Father please forgive them, you know not what you do. Peace be with you and all that other bullshit you say every Sunday, but never live up to.
     
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    Poverty is a choice.
     
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    For you it is.

    Not for everyone.
     
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    For everyone living in America it's a choice besides the medically disabled in certain circumstances.
     
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    Just another extremist opinion in opposition of the American spirit.

    Supported by nothing but feelings.
     
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    Someone being entitled to their hard work is an extremist opinion and unamerican now :rolleyes:

    Boy does the left expose themselves...
     
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    More feelings.

    Citing "hard work," falsely asserting that impoverished people don't work hard. Considering you're aiming that at Black people, the racism is obvious.

    But its also ignorant of much of the Trump base, who works incredibly hard and still faces some of the worst poverty you can imagine.


    Just completely tone deaf, all of it predicated on feelings instead of facts.
     
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    You're welcome to find it.

    Were I subject to generations of violence, brutality and even murder by police, have to believe that I'd hesitate trusting them.

    Your inability to even understand that concept is what makes you so criminally unqualified to judge any Black men and women.
     
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    Oh I understand it, I would be very angry also if my great grandparents were slaves ...but I wouldn't let that fact rationalize my behavior into becoming another crime statistic.
     
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    But you WILL let it rationalize that, without understanding a thing about their American experience, blame the victims of generational brutality by police.

    The conservative MO.
     
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    Nobody said impoverished people don't work hard sometimes. Poverty is still a choice in America.

    It's not ignorance or racism, poverty touches more white Americans than black Americans and I still feel this way.

    I was working class and did what I had to build wealth. Started working when I was 13 and still work for something to do.
     
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    I know this deep, people mysterious American Experience that you know less than I do about, should not be an excuse for black people to go around killing other black people, resist legal authority, and have 75% of children born out of wedlock.
     
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    Ending single parent households isn't something government can control.

    They can end the systematic poverty which leads to violence, but you demonize all of them as lazy and entitled while handing out all of the nation's wealth to corporate interests and billionaires. Instead, you use it to whine about "black on black crime" that Republicans have spent generations "fighting," which is code for mass incarceration and causing more single parent households with no hope or future.

    The only myth is the concept of hard work being the key to escaping poverty, which is just fantasy.
     

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