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A Legacy of Heartbreaking Final Drives

What was it, five years ago there was the last drive pass interception against Clemson, then there was the missed field goal on the final play against Georgia, last year there was the painful pass interception at Michigan and now the game-ending play against Oregon.
Okay, there was the very lucky touchdown at Notre Dame to win that game.
These defeats are getting hard to take. The Buckeyes shouldn't have been in those situations but at least they had a chance for game-winning plays. In most cases, the heartbreaking plays were a failure by the players to execute.
Several times in those games, the defense failed to stop the opponent's offense in a timely manner. It was also a fact that the offense could not get first downs that would have run-out the clock.
Great, championship teams perform in the clutch.. This season is not over, there is a lot of football left. If the Bucks can bounce back, and win the final six games, they will likely play in the Big Ten Championship Game. Win that and they will still have a top four seed in the 12-team Playoffs. We'll find out what the team is made of.

Sobering Buckeye Thoughts

I don’t want to go over every last misstep about the game, plenty of threads about that. Andrew’s was solid and I tend to agree with much of his assessment.

The overwhelming and sobering feeling I have is the realization that this team and program doesn’t have that high gear anymore. I can’t even put into words what I mean but I think back to games in the past… Michigan in 2016, PSU in 2017 and 2018, Clemson in 2020, Hell Michigan games for almost 2 decades and Ohio State could be in a game like tonight and all of a sudden they would hit that high gear and just prove in every facet they were superior.

When was the last time we played a great opponent and just snuffed them out? It felt like we did it a lot for 2 decades. We used to be mentally superior on top of being physically superior. Those days seem long in the rearview.

I have always wanted Ryan Day to succeed. He seems like a great person, not the ego maniac Urban seemed to be, but man he has turned OSU into a shell of its former self. We used to come out on nights like tonight and just bludgeon good teams like this. I know we were never perfect, but we sure had high points that seem fewer and fewer.

To try and pinpoint exactly where and what went wrong, I think it’s the trenches. We have never been better at the skill positions. But the lines on both sides have gotten more ordinary year over year since Day took over. This defensive line in particular, filled with talent and experience, was a no show tonight. Been no showing big games for multiple years now.

Sorry to ramble, sleep is eluding me tonight. This one just felt more sobering than some others. All we heard about was this loaded roster. In the end the offensive and defensive lines got outphysicalled. Feels like that’s a serious trend. Season is still undecided, and there is more room for error but from what I saw tonight, not sure if they can find that high gear that used to wipe good teams off the field. Go bucks!

  • Poll
Gun to your head. You have pick one or more.

What's your biggest concern so far heading into the Iowa game

  • Lack of pressure from defensive line

    Votes: 32 27.4%
  • Linebackers playing lost, confused, and / or out of place

    Votes: 83 70.9%
  • Lack of production from tight end

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • The secondary giving up chunk plays

    Votes: 7 6.0%
  • Defensive play calling

    Votes: 23 19.7%

A lot to be happy about. Also some things that could be a concern heading into the meat of the schedule / matchup games.

NIL Fundraising Concerts

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I saw this announced a week ago and they’ve already raised 3.5 million. Seems like a smart idea. Im sure there’s a handful of Ohio born/based artists and bands that would be interested. An obvious one would be Twenty One Pilots as their lead singer is a huge Ohio State fan and they can sell a ton of tickets. They were just at Nationwide Arena a few days ago. Rascal Flats is another obvious one. Maybe O.A.R. I’m sure there’s others.

Seems like a quick and relatively easy way to raise a few million dollars.

College Football TV Schedule - Week 7

Today

Time ETGameTV
7:30 pmCoastal Carolina - James MadisonESPN2
8:00 pmMiddle Tennessee - Louisiana TechCBSSN
8:00 pmUTEP - Western KentuckyESPNU

Friday, October 11

Time ETGameTV
6:00 pmHarvard - CornellESPN2
8:00 pmNorthwestern - MarylandFOX
9:00 pmUNLV - Utah StateCBSSN
9:15 pmPrairie View A&M - Arkansas Pine BluffESPN2
10:30 pmUtah - Arizona StateESPN

Saturday, October 12

Time ETGameTV
12:00 pmBall State - Kent StateESPN+
12:00 pmClemson - Wake ForestESPN
12:00 pmDartmouth - YaleESPN+
12:00 pmDuquesne - Saint Francis (PA)ESPN+
12:00 pmGeorgia Tech - North CarolinaCW
12:00 pmMissouri - UMassESPN2
12:00 pmSouth Carolina - AlabamaABC
12:00 pmSt. Thomas (MN) - MaristESPN+
12:00 pmToledo - BuffaloESPNU
12:00 pmUAB - ArmyCBSSN
12:00 pmWashington - IowaFOX or BTN
12:00 pmWisconsin - RutgersFOX or BTN
TBDIdaho - Montana StateTBD, TBD
TBDMemphis - South Florida
Rescheduled from 10/11, time TBD
TBD, TBD
TBDMissouri - MassachusettsTBD, TBD
12:30 pmGeorgetown - LafayetteESPN+
1:00 pmBucknell - PennsylvaniaESPN+
1:00 pmFordham - Holy CrossESPN+
1:00 pmMissouri State - Illinois StateESPN+
1:00 pmMurray State - Indiana StateESPN+
1:00 pmSacred Heart - HowardESPN+
1:00 pmValparaiso - StetsonESPN+
1:30 pmVMI - WoffordESPN+
2:00 pmAllen University - Fort Valley StateESPN+
2:00 pmButler - DrakeESPN+
2:00 pmCharleston Southern - LindenwoodESPN+
2:00 pmChattanooga - FurmanESPN+
2:00 pmMiami (Ohio) - Eastern MichiganESPN+
2:00 pmPresbyterian - Morehead StateESPN+
2:00 pmTowson - Norfolk StateESPN+
2:00 pmVirginia Lynchburg - North Carolina CentralESPN+
2:30 pmThe Citadel - Western CarolinaESPN+
3:00 pmAlcorn State - GramblingESPN+
3:00 pmMerrimack - Morgan StateESPN+
3:00 pmNorth Dakota State - Southern IllinoisESPN+
3:00 pmNorthern Iowa - South DakotaESPN+
3:00 pmSE Louisiana - Houston ChristianESPN+
3:00 pmTexas A&M-Commerce - Northwestern StateESPN+
3:00 pmYoungstown State - South Dakota StateESPN+
3:30 pmArkon - Western MichiganESPN+
3:30 pmCal - PittsburghESPN or ACCN
3:30 pmCincinnati - UCFESPN2
3:30 pmLouisville - VirginiaESPN or ACCN
3:30 pmNorthern Illinois - Bowling GreenESPN+
3:30 pmOld Dominion - Georgia StateESPN+
3:30 pmPenn State - USCCBS, Paramount+
3:30 pmPrinceton - MercerESPN+
3:30 pmPurdue - IllinoisFS1
3:30 pmSamford - East Tennessee StateESPN+
3:30 pmSan Diego State - WyomingCBSSN
3:30 pmSan Jose State - Colorado StatetruTV, Max
3:30 pmStanford - Notre DameNBC, Peacock
3:30 pmRed River Rivalry
Texas - Oklahoma
from Dallas
ABC, ESPN+
4:00 pmArizona - BYUFOX
4:00 pmEastern Kentucky - Southern UtahESPN+
4:00 pmNorthern Arizona - MontanaESPN+
4:00 pmOhio - Central MichiganESPNU
4:00 pmStephen F. Austin - LamarESPN+
4:00 pmTennessee Tech - Southeast Missouri StateESPN+
4:00 pmUT Martin - Western IllinoisESPN+
4:15 pmMississippi State - GeorgiaSECN
5:00 pmSouthern Miss - UL-MonroeESPN+
5:00 pmWest Georgia - Central ArkansasESPN+
6:00 pmEastern Illinois - Tennessee StateESPN+
6:00 pmPortland State - Idaho StateESPN+
7:00 pmAbilene Christian - North AlabamaESPN+
7:00 pmAir Force - New MexicotruTV, Max
7:00 pmArkansas State - Texas StateESPN+
7:00 pmCal Poly - UC DavisESPN+
7:00 pmFlorida - TennesseeESPN
7:00 pmNicholls - Incarnate WordESPN+
7:00 pmNorth Texas - FAUESPN2
7:00 pmUTSA - RiceESPN+
7:00 pmUtah Tech - TarletonESPN+
7:00 pmWashington State - Fresno StateFS1
7:30 pmAppalachian State - LouisianaESPN+
7:30 pmMississippi - LSUABC
7:30 pmOhio State - OregonNBC, Peacock
7:30 pmOregon State - NevadaCBSSN
7:45 pmVanderbilt - KentuckySECN
8:00 pmIowa State - West VirginiaFOX
8:00 pmMarshall - Georgia SouthernESPNU
8:00 pmNorthern Colorado - Weber StateESPN+
8:00 pmSyracuse - NC StateACCN
9:00 pmEastern Washington - Sacramento StateESPN+
9:00 pmMinnesota - UCLABTN
10:15 pmKansas State - ColoradoESPN
11:00 pmBoise State - HawaiiCBSSN

Football GAME THOUGHTS: #3 Ohio State 35, Iowa 7

Some frustrating moments early on, but it was mostly smooth sailing after that.

  • The opening drive was great, but other than that it was a rough first half for Chip Kelly. Hated the 4th down QB run out of the shotgun.
  • Will Howard had an up-and-down day. He had some beauties to Emeka but also made some poor decisions and underthrew some deep balls.
  • He made some nice reads in the running game and ran hard on the designed carries. He missed a few open receivers and there was one play in particular where I wished he had thrown it out of bounds rather than taking a big loss. The INT was bad and again he needs to get better with the deep ball.
  • I thought the offensive line was solid for the most part but Donovan Jackson had a rough showing. He especially seems to struggle against stunting defenders.
  • I love how hard Quinshon Judkins continues to run.
  • Jeremiah Smith is pretty good imo. Emeka had some great catches today. Loved to see him get the trifecta.
  • I wonder what is going on with Jelani Thurman.
  • My favorite play of the game might have been the 4th and 2 play-action pass to Inniss late in the third.


  • Is Tyleik Williams the most important player on the defense? The man is impossible to block. I am sad every time he's taken off the field in favor of the rushmen.
  • I though Sonny Styles had his best game of the season. He was caught flat-footed on a third down crosser early on, but other than that I thought he was pretty good today.
  • The defense did a hell of a job against Kaleb Johnson. Simon missed him once but that's going to happen on occasion against a good back.
  • I'm not gonna fault them too much for the second-team defense giving up the TD run. I hate that Arvell is the guy who missed the tackle though.
  • Ty Hamilton annihilated the blocker on the McNamara fumble to start the 4th


  • I've been impressed with the half-time adjustments and how they come out and look after the break.

WWE thread

So there are two thread today that have veered into some WWE stuff. I have seen a thread on here for MMA stuff so I feel okay making one for this.

@AustinWard and @Bill Landis are fans so I feel like they will approve.

I know it is a divisive thing so spare me with the it's fake stuff. If you don't like it then just stay out of this thread.

Ohio Stadiums Turf looks awful

@Birm @AustinWard , @Bill Landis , wanted to tag you guys because I seem to remember this field being replaced like 2 years ago ? All season I’ve watched and saw players losing their footing when they cut, what’s the story here ? On Saturday , flipping between the Nebraska and Buckeyes game , I couldn’t get over had bad the field looked , faded red end Zones , etc . I haven’t been to a game yet this season , wanted to get your thoughts , or if you have heard Ross Bjork acknowledge it . There were quite a few post on Twitter Saturday as well
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What Happened Before: Ohio State vs Oregon

Will the Buckeyes cover the 3 point spread?

  • Yes

    Votes: 11 84.6%
  • No

    Votes: 2 15.4%

The highly anticipated game between the #2 Buckeyes and the #3 Ducks is upon us. This is the tenth meeting between the two schools, with the Buckeye's leading the series 9-1. Let's take a look at "What Happened Before."

- The Oregon football team was originally referred to as the Web Foots, but the sports writers shortened it to Ducks to save on space and eventually that became the official mascot.

- In 1947, Oregon reached an agreement with Walt Disney to use the image of Donald Duck.

- As stated above, the Buckeyes lead the series 9-1. OSU is 5-0 when only they are ranked and 2-1 when both teams are ranked.

- Ryan Day is 1-5 vs top 3 teams. Dan Lanning is 0-2 against top 3 teams.

- OSU has victories over the Ducks in 4 of its 8 national championship seasons (1957, 1961, 1968, 2014).

- This is the Buckeyes first game at Oregon since 1967.

THE GAMES:

January 1, 1958
: With the final polls already released and the Buckeyes (8-1) ranked #1 in the coaches poll (UPI) and #2 in the AP behind Auburn (who was ineligible in the UPI poll due to recruiting violations. Yes, SEC cheating goes back THAT far!), they traveled out west to play the Oregon Web Foots (7-3) in the Rose Bowl. Oregon lost their last game, to rival Oregon State, in the Civil War, to tie the Beavers (who's has the best mascot in sports), and tie for the Pacific Coast Conference title. But because of the PCC no repeat rule at the time, the Beavers couldn't go back to the Rose Bowl, sending the team from Eugene.

The Buckeyes were 20 point favorites heading into the game, and Woody Hayes hoped his boys were ready. OSU took their opening drive 79 yards for a touchdown to start things off. Oregon was able to tie the score at 7-7 in the second quarter. After a scoreless 3rd quarter, the Buckeyes were able to kick a 34 field goal to take a 10-7 lead with 14:09 to play. The Web Foots had two more scoring chances in the 4th, but fumbled one away on the Buckeye 30 and later turned the ball over on downs with 47 seconds to play. 10-7 Buckeyes!

1961: The #3 Buckeyes (6-0) easily handled the Ducks (4-4) 22-12 in Ohio Stadium. Woody's troops intercepted two Oregon passes, and completed 1 pass of their own in 6 attempts for a whopping 12 yards as the the Buckeyes marched to a Football Writers Association of America national championship, Woody's 3rd and OSU's 4th. They finished #2 in the AP poll behind Alabama (SEC bias, LOL).

1962: The Buckeyes (4-3) beat the Ducks (6-1-1) 26-7, on a cold, rainy November day. Even though it was great weather for Ducks, it wasn't enough.

1967: In a battle of winless teams, OSU (0-1), crushed Oregon (0-4) by a lopsided score of 30-0 in the only shutout in the series. It also is the only game in the series played in Eugene.

1968: Woody's #6 ranked Super Soph's, on their way to an undefeated national championship season, outmanned winless Oregon (0-2) 21-6, in spite of throwing four interceptions and losing 2 fumbles. In spite of the turnovers, the Buckeyes outgained Oregon 456 - 140 yards.

1983: In their season opener, Earle Bruce's #7 ranked Buckeyes intercepted 3 Oregon passes to cruise to a 31-6 victory on the 94 degree September day. OSU quarterback Mike Tomczak had an outstanding day, going 21-25-273 yds and 4 TD's.

1987: The #5 ranked Buckeyes (1-0) stumbled to a 3-0 halftime lead over the Ducks (1-0) and hang on for a 24-14 win in Ole 9-3 Earle's final season.

Jan 1, 2010: The BIG champion and #8 ranked Buckeyes headed to Pasadena to face the Pac 12 and #7 Oregon Ducks in the Rose Bowl. The Buckeyes scored on their opening drive, marching 75 yards on their way to a 10-0 first quarter lead. The Ducks roar back to tie the game at 10 before the Buckeyes kick a pair of FG's to lead 16-10 at the break.

The second half opened with Oregon driving the length of the field to take a 17-16 lead, but the Buckeyes immediately responded with a FG. 19-17. Oregon tried to answer that score but fumbled the ball through the Buckeyes end zone. OSU's ball. The third quarter ended with Jim Tressel's troops leading Chip Kelly's boys 19-17. The Buckeyes were then able to mount a drive culminating with Terrell Pryor to DeVier Posey touchdown pass for 17 yards with 7:02 to play. Oregon was able to threaten one last time but missed a 44 yd FG with 5:10 to go. The Bucks then decided to play keep away and ran out the clock to win 26-17.

Jan. 12, 2015: CFP National Championship Game. The #4 seed Ohio State Buckeyes (13-1) faced the #2 seed Oregon Ducks (13-1) for all the marbles. After spotting the Ducks a 7-0 lead, the Buckeyes ran off 21 straight points starting with Ezekiel Elliott's 33 yard touchdown run. The Ducks were able to manage a 26 yd FG with 48 seconds to play in the half. Buckeyes led 21-10.
The Buckeyes received the second half kickoff and they started to drive. But Cardale Jones' pass was intercepted at the Oregon 30 yard line. On the next play, Marcus Mariota's 70 yard pass was completed to Byron Marshall for a touchdown. 21-17. Cardale's woes continued as the ball slipped from his hands as he was trying to pass and Oregon recovered at the Buckeye 23. But the Buckeye defense held and Oregon had to settle for a 23 yard FG. 21-20. The Buckeyes immediately answered, driving 75 yards for a Zeke Elliott 9 yard TD run on the last play of the third quarter. 28-20 Buckeyes.

After forcing an Oregon punt, the Buckeyes drove 76 yards for another Elliott touchdown run. 35-20. After the teams traded punts, Oregon got the ball on their own 15 with 4:17 to play. The Bucks hold and Oregon turns the ball over on downs at their own 14. The Buckeyes decide they want more, so they gave it to Zeke 4 times and he scored his 4th touchdown of the day to go along with his 246 yards rushing. 42-20 Buckeyes! Oregon couldn't muster anything in the final seconds. The Buckeyes had won the first CFP national championship!!!


2021: #12 (1-0) Oregon came a-calling to Ohio Stadium to meet the #3 Buckeyes (1-0) on a sunny September day. After a scoreless first quarter, Oregon opened the scoring when RB CJ Verdell went around left end untouched for a 14 yard touchdown. 7-0. After exchanging punts, the Buckeyes mounted a drive culminating in a 27 yard pass to Garrett Wilson from CJ Stroud. 7-7. The Ducks responded with a 65 yard drive for another Verdell touchdown. 14-7 Ducks at the half.

On the third play from scrimmage after the Ducks received the second half kickoff, CJ Verdell explodes up the gut and doesn't look back on his way to a 77 yard touchdown. 21-7 Oregon. CJ Stroud leads the Buckeyes down the field and hits JSN on a 26 yard touchdown pass to pull within 7. But the porous OSU defense couldn't stop the Ducks offense and they march 75 yards to go back up 28-14. That's how the quarter ended.

In the 4th quarter, the Buckeyes scored, 28-21, then the Ducks scored, 35-21, thee the Buckeyes scored, 35-28. Then the Bucks force Oregon to punt, but can't do anything and have to punt it back. Another Oregon punt, but the Ducks intercept a CJ Stroud pass at the Oregon 35, for all intents and purposes ending the game. The Buckeyes had 612 total yards but the defense allowed 505 yards. CJ Stroud passed for 484 yards, but it wasn't enough.

Hopefully this week's game is like the first nine meetings and not the last one. Go Bucks!!
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