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Ground Shifting Thoughts from a Nobody

This felt like the lowest point as an Ohio State fan and alum in some time. Worse than last year (by far) and worse than 2006’s Florida game. 2015 MSU felt bad, and as a kid, year after year against Michigan felt like the end of the world.

I would even argue this was a little ground-shifting for me. I’m 35, a father of a 2-year-old, with another on the way in April. I prioritize OSU football. I tell my wife we can’t do things on Saturday because it is reserved for Ohio State games. I make it overly important to my life, listen to hours of podcasts, and ingest OSU content for hours a week. I think about this program a lot, probably far too much. Today felt like a reason to take a step back. Worry more about things that impact my immediate life, like my family, career, friends, etc. Maybe that sounds dramatic, but this felt a lot different than past defeats. We came up lame against the best of the best, but being #2 in the B1G isn’t something fans have felt since the early days of this millennium. College football is changing, and I don’t love the vibe as much as I once did. It’s only becoming more NFL-like in the future, and that makes it lose some luster to me.

Thoughts on the game and program:

1 - Last year they weren’t the better team. I don’t know if they were the better team today, but it felt like they were severely held back by the coaching and playcalling.
2 - They dominated the first half but felt like they wouldn’t get out of their own way. How was it not 28-10 at half? Bill talked about getting a big lead, and they blew it.
3 - Ryan Day outsmarted himself. You have arguably the best QB and WR in the sport. They just couldn’t finish on offense and focused too much on targeting Stover and Xavier Johnson.
4 - Matt Jones' situation hurt more than I thought it would. The hold was a killer.
5 - Chip was pretty good, but it seemed like they had something in Hayden, and he got two carries. He must fumble every other carry in practice? It’s so confounding.
6 - Defense had them contained, and then the dam broke. The 3rd down all-out blitz call that led to the first long score injected life in UM and sapped it from OSU.
7 - The punt down 4 felt like a scared move. Go get momentum back.
8 - The DBs weren’t it. They didn’t want to sniff transfers. It was the undoing of this defense. The front seven deserved better.
9 - The really troubling thing was the lack of mental toughness, composure, and willingness to stay in the fight. When UM players say they knew when your will broke in the post-game, that’s an issue. THE PENALTIES, especially in crucial game-changing situations, were a backbreaker.
10 - They quit… I don’t remember seeing OSU teams in the past do that? Why can’t they punch back instead of folding? They dog walk bad teams all year, and when they are in a dog fight with a talented team, it seems like they want no part of it.
11 - The toughness issue was physical last year, this year, it seemed more mental. Is Mick still maximizing this team? Is Day? It’s a question that should be asked because, honestly, what changes in the next 365 to flip this outcome?
12 - The soft thing is lame, but this program has a lot of question marks. Why so many injuries? The JSN thing was genuinely puzzling. I get you can rest guys, and win a lot of games, but the roster has seemed so disjointed all year.

The way Birm looked in Snap Judgements resonated. He looked sick. That’s how many fans feel, and I feel sick tonight. I feel sick for the players who work hard for this. I know they didn’t deliver, but they must feel 100x worse than any of us. I feel sick for CJ Stroud. His postgame was heartfelt, and you know, 2 decades from now, what people will say about him. He was two wins away from a Heisman and more team accomplishments and came up empty twice. It’s not easy having the spotlight, and he will have to live with the outcome of this for a long time. Sorry for this long post, but I felt like ranting before I could go to sleep. I hope you all had a good Thanksgiving, despite today.

Tough Conversations

It's time to start processing guys. It goes against his nature, but I believe Day will be forced into using the portal more aggressively and extensively. The DTI staff are pros, so I know they'll never mention guys by name or speculate, but I'm not, so I will. Guys like Toutant and Leroux need to go. They were projects who probably should have never been here who haven't developed as hoped. Meanwhile, guys like Jantzen Dunn and Jaylen Johnson, have failed to do anything and have been passed by younger guys.

Rivals100 WR Brandon Inniss locked in with Ohio State and recruiting

Inniss covers his relationship with Ohio State's coaches, which teams are reaching out to him, and which players he is recruiting for the Buckeyes:

Negative Evolution of Day's Offense

Negative evolution = Predictability

1. Immobile QB = QB is zero threat to run, even on read option and RPO
2. Middle of field abandoned = Mesh routes, once a lethal staple, are gone; everything is outside the numbers
3. RB a non-factor in passing game = RB1-2 combined for 47 catches in 2018; 9 this year
4. Lack of receiver depth = 2022 WR1-2 55% of catches; 2018 WR1-2 39% of catches

2022 % of catches by role
WR1 = 29%
WR2 = 26%
WR3 = 11%
WR4 = 4%
WR5 = 3%
WR6 = 2%
TE1 = 14%
RB1/RB2 = 3%

2018 % of catches by role
WR1 = 22%
WR2 = 17%
WR3 = 10%
WR4 = 9%
WR5 = 7%
WR6 = 5%
TE1 = 5%
RB1/RB2 = 12%

Season Thoughts

I know everyone is super upset and that’s fair but what does everyone think about the coaches and this program at this point? I would let day have one more year before “firing” him. I don’t think Fickell would be as clear an upgrade as you guys think. I would like to see day consider giving up play calling… it seems something has happened to him since Alabama that has him shell shocked.

On defense I still think Knowles is a huge upgrade over what we have. I think you need to understand the defense is “safety” driven and clearly our secondary was our weakness all year. I will be interested to see what it looks like with Sonny and say Caleb Downs 👀 back there along with athletic LB (Cj Hicks) out there before I make any big judgements.

Special teams I know Parker Fleming is very respected apparently but my god we have clear problems with special teams. The punt return has been brutal for years.

Some players I am looking forward to next year:
McCord
Jaden Ballard
Evan Pryor
Sonny Styles
Jordan Hancock

Some players i expected more from:
Jack Sawyer
Denzel Burke
Julian Fleming

Let me know your thoughts bottom line this team needs to question its toughness interested to see where you guys think the problems lie..

Do CJ and Ryan Day have a good relationship?

So I saw this the other day and thought it was a bit odd but didn’t think too much of it. But since we’re questioning everything about the program, why not?

If you go to 1:05 he’s asked about his relationship with coach Day and it wasn’t the most convincing indication of a great relationship. At one point he says “we’ve gotten used to each other I’ll say that”. His initial response sounds authentic and then he gives the “correct answer”

Could be nothing but I found it interesting. Combine it with his quote recently about how he didn’t come to Ohio State because of any coaches and I can’t wonder if there’s any tension in their relationship 🤷🏼‍♂️


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Soft?

As I said in the last iteration of this thread, soft may not be your term. What would you call this D?

Pushed around yet again. Simple plays lijke a zone read goes 80. Multiple times.

Michigan WRs ridiculously wide open. For TD. Mulitple times.

Poor coaching? Players not following the coaching? Athletes being out played?

Call it what you want but its been there all season. I saw it. You all did too whether you admitted it or not.

What to do now? Where to go from here? It wont be any easier in A2 next year folks.
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